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Poster: longhauler Date: Apr 30, 2012 5:33pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: live album advice for a youngen...

Hi everybody,

I'm new to the grateful dead scene...Ive grown up hearing some of their popular tunes, studio versions. I'm wanting to invest in some live jams and am looking for some guidance. I seem to get overwhelmed at the collection of dicks picks. I've bought 12 and 8. I really enjoyed 12 but was kinda in the middle about vol. 8. Any starting point and general direction would bee appreciated...

Thanks :)

Thank you to everyone for the advice... 4/30/12 LH

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Poster: midnightcarousel Date: May 2, 2012 7:24am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: live album advice for a youngen...

Maybe give it a month and try volume 8 again. It actually didn't hit me at first. That show really exhibits Jerry's insane guitar playing. Choice cuts (mine anyway):

The other one - they play it at breakneck speed, it's raw, dirty, muscular, and culminates in an absolutely mind-blowing climax. If you were impatient, you could skip both "cryptical envelopment"s and the drums track.

Good Lovin - Allow yourself to cringe at the horrific vocals at the beginning, and about 5 minutes in, after the drum solo (or duet, I guess), it gets crazy. Closer to the end, Jerry plays all by himself (accompanied by drums only), truly one of the greatest moments for him ever captured on tape. Listen closely all the way through and I sincerely doubt you will be disappointed.

Dancin in the Streets - Again, wait for the painful vocals to subside, and this evolves into a truly transcendent jam. Jerry's guitar playing is perhaps at its best on this track. Fast, fluid, inventive.


If you liked DP 12, though, I would suggest the 6/18/74 concert, some of the best moments of which are captured on Road trips vol. 2 no. 3. Also you MUST get dick's picks volume 31, from 8/4-6/74. I love that period, and those are more shows from it.

6/23/74 is also special, and that's available on the archive.

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Poster: dark.starz Date: Apr 22, 2012 11:26pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: live album advice for a youngen...

Here's a few shows that'll place a smile on your face.

http://archive.org/details/gd70-04-15.sbd.kaplan.14354.sbeok.shnf

Winterland, April 15th, 1970

Man's World > Cryptical > Drums > Jam > Drums > That's It For The Other One >


http://archive.org/details/gd1974-06-30.sbd.miller.96275.sbeok.flac16

Springfield MA, June 30th, 1974

Set 2: China Cat > Rider > Scarlet > Eyes > Stella >


http://archive.org/details/gd1977-04-23.sbd.miller.88401.sbeok.flac16

Springfield MA, April 23rd, 1977

Set 2: Scarlet Begonias > Fire > Music > Help > Slip > Franklins >


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Poster: wisconsindead Date: Apr 22, 2012 1:23pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: live album advice for a youngen...

DP 10 and 18 (late 77/early 78) are pure gold and likely up your alley if DP 8 maybe aint ringing your bell so much.

If you'd like some burned copies of shows you like here on archive or a release I wouldnt mind helping you out.

Do you have any shows here that you really enjoy? Knowing the year and finding a release from the period is a good place to start.

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Poster: TOOTMO Date: Apr 25, 2012 12:13pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: live album advice for a youngen...

"DP 10 and 18 (late 77/early 78) are pure gold "

Hell, yeah: LOVE the UNI-Dome. DP 18 is from one of the most "thunderous" periods of the Dead. I would have loved to have seen them continue down this path rather than the Shakedown-disco street.

Here's an AUD for you to sample, but I wholeheartedly recommend DP 18. Make sure to check out the TOO.
http://archive.org/details/gd78-02-05.aud.set2.warner.19466.sbeok.shnf

And, here is a AUD from the night before:
http://archive.org/details/gd78-02-04.aud.vernon.12199.sbeok.shnf

Enjoy,
Judge TOOTMO

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Poster: unclejohn52 Date: Apr 23, 2012 8:59am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: live album advice for a youngen...

Welcome LH - yes, the amount of material available can be overwhelming, but that's the beauty of it. Can't think of another band with this kind of legacy.

As a newcomer, it might be advisable to acquaint yourself with music from all eras - although most of us have our preferences, it's up to you to explore. This band has a large body of work after playing for 30 years. Before laying down any more hard cash, consider all the resources available, and get a feeling for what you like. The Archive is THE place to do this. Other sources: a nice little taste over at nugs.net - quite a few free shows, a little from almost every era (not much from the 80s however); be sure to download 8/27/72, and the run from 5/5/77 thru 5/9/77 is outstanding. There are other DL sites, you just gotta poke around, the seeds are there! You can also check out podcasts on iTunes - Dead Air w/ Uncle John, Shakedown Stream (Jer plays complete shows as well as a taste of JGB every week), the Deadpod, and more.

For live releases, Live/Dead, Ladies & Gentlemen, "Skullfuck" and Europe 72 give a fine taste of live 1969-72, sans some of the longer jams. Enjoy!

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Poster: capsgd Date: Apr 22, 2012 5:27pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: live album advice for a youngen...

DPs 12 is a classic but its not Hi-Fi
or you might not be into Pigpen...
try these-


DPs #7 74'England
DPs #3 is 77'
DPs # 9 Winterland
DPs #18/#25 78'

auds (at this site)you might like
77-05-08 Cornell (shure steve)
79-01-20 Shea's Theater (moore) 24 bit
80-06-21 Alaska
80-11-29 Alligator Alley Gym (beyer wise miller)
81-09-12 Greek Theater (nak anon. poris)
82-04-03 the Scope (nak wagner miller)
82-05-22/23 Greek (nak unknown)
82-10-10 Frost (nak anon. poris)

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Poster: Pig Street ! Date: Apr 22, 2012 1:20pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: live album advice for a youngen...

Try this site http://www.deadlistening.com/ You can Dl the Aud Shows that are highly recommended and there are great reviews as well

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Poster: clementinescaboose Date: Apr 22, 2012 8:53pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: live album advice for a youngen...

If you liked 12, I'd also recommend Dick's Picks 31. It's the best pick from '74 IMO...lots of great jams and song versions.

Personally, if I had to start all over with my live Dead collection again, I'd go with these:

Europe '72, Grateful Dead (Skull and Roses), Live Dead, Dicks Picks vols: 2,3,4,8,12,14,16,18,22,28,31,34,36.

You could also check out the SoMany Roads box set, it's a nice distillation of various jams through out the band's career and might give you a clue as to what eras you gravitate toward.

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Poster: yesss! Date: Apr 22, 2012 11:05pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: live album advice for a youngen...

i agree that DP 31 is a great choice for more officially released '74 dead. lots of ground covered there. Road Trips Volume 2 Number 3 (6/18/74) is also amazing and has some of my personal favorite jams of all time.

other suggestions from the era are:

Steppin' Out with the Grateful Dead- an excellent sounding compilation that highlights great moments from the europe 72 tour.

DP 28- not a lot of big jams, but has extremely well played versions of a lot of classic material circa '73.

One From the Vault- tight and energized show from '75, with a nice blend of material and some amazing playing.

and if you want to explore earlier and later eras- Live/Dead is a good intro to the 60's, and anything from 5/77 will work for the late 70's.

good luck!

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Poster: Dhamma1 Date: Apr 22, 2012 1:40pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: live album advice for a youngen...

Attached is a spreadsheet with the 450 best shows, 1965-1978 -- with URLs (most are free here), historical summaries, quotes from reviews, and more. You can browse the "Summary" column for really short descriptions and the "Body" column for more details about each one.

It includes pretty much all the shows from the first half of their career that people talk about. If you have a database app like CSV Touch or Memento, you can even upload it to a smartphone and have most of them available all the time.

450 recordings is more browsable than the eight thousand currently here, but if it's still too much to be useful, sort on the "Rating" column to get the cream of the crop. Of course, those ratings are just my opinions. Your mileage may differ, as they say.

Have fun, in any event. And welcome to the forum.

Attachment: GD_-_MAIN.csv

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Poster: leadville Date: May 21, 2012 11:11pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: live album advice for a youngen...

Go on a roadtrip, by yourself, (2 hours at the very least), and play a show. Only thing you can do outside of focusing on the road, which becomes automatic, is listen. I suggest starting with DP 1.

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Poster: longhauler Date: May 22, 2012 8:04am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: live album advice for a youngen...

Shouldn't be a problem... Im a truck driver.

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Poster: leadville Date: May 23, 2012 9:15am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: live album advice for a youngen...

That's perfect. Maybe turn cb volume down.. You could be catching on then have the moment interrupted.

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Poster: snow_and_rain Date: Apr 23, 2012 9:21pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: live album advice for a youngen...

In the middle about Harpur College? Wow, that's not only one of the best shows from the era, it's one of the best ever.

But primal Dead might still be your thing. To see if there's any hope for you, I would suggest the following:

* http://archive.org/details/gd1967-11-10.116368.sbd.motb-0172.flac24 - Outstanding set from 1967. Relentless, full-throttle jamming. Probably the best Viola Lee Blues. (Note: Tracks are badly mislabeled)

* Road Trips Vol. 2.2 - 2/14/68 - This is a commercial release. Don't hesitate. Get it.

* Dick's Picks Vol. 16 - 11/8/69 - One of the best uninterrupted sequences ever - Dark Star-> The Other One-> Dark Star-> Uncle John's Band Jam-> Dark Star-> Saint Stephen-> The Eleven-> Caution (Do Not Stop on Tracks)-> The Main Ten-> Caution (Do Not Stop On The Tracks-> Feedback-> We Bid You Good Night

* http://archive.org/details/gd1971-04-28.sbd.miller.106099.flac16 - Personal favorite versions of Hard to Handle and The Other One. Entire show smokes.

* http://archive.org/details/gd1971-04-29.sbd.multitracks.miller.114350.flac16 - Most consider this to be better than the previous night. It might be.

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Poster: RBNW....new and improved! Date: Apr 22, 2012 7:51pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: live album advice for a youngen...

Nothing beats Skeletons from the Closet

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Poster: deadheadhippy Date: May 1, 2012 4:42pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: live album advice for a youngen...

been taping and collecting 30yrs+ have a very large collection of high quility sbd aud video its all free just ask and you will recive deadheadhippy@yahoo.com

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